Ollie vs redfreddy (Out Of The Ink Machine vs Zajcu37 Archiv)

"Follow the Red Bear"

Ollie: The Writer.

redfreddy: The Many.

 

We all love a good parody, but what happens when it takes a life of its own? What do you mean these aren't the characters you know? They are! Are you crazy or something. Whatever, it doesn't matter that much, we're here to see who wins in a LARP BATTLE!

 

Before we start...

Here are the sources we're using for both characters:

 

Ollie

Out Of The Ink Machine C1 + C2's shown cut content

Creator Statements

2017 Prototype

this post on quora 

 

redfreddy

 

Original webseries

Offical game (AKA One Night At Red Freddy)

Darkest Hours (trailer feat only)

this reddit thread

this archive site, see this video for the original

 

We're going to be upfront and tell you this isn't a 100% ultra serious prediction blog. We understand blogs should be objective and we're not trying to avoid that, we just think the nature of this being a Larp Battle prediction makes it more saterical than anything. Despite that, I think this will be a good read for those interested in learning about these two.

Another thing, these series has a lot of deleted (but archived) content which we drew from. 

 we're trying to not be the g1 team of larp battles so im only doing these if im interested in the fight ok bye have fun!!!! 

we worked hard on this 🥲 

ALSO ONE MORE THING THE LINKS TO MOST REDFREDDY THINGS ARE RIGHT BEFORE JUMPSCARES AND OR LOUD SOUNDS PLEASE MUTE TABS WHEN OPENING

 

Background

 

Ollie

"IN THIS HOUSE, I AM KING."

Do you remember Bendy And The Ink Machine? Of course you do! It's why you're playing it right now! It's how you remember it, right? Oh, who cares? You're here for my story, so stay on the path.

Ollie is well, bendy! He's how you remember him all those years ago, seeing nothing but posts about BATIM. Born from all the negativity from BATIM, he seeks to write his own "better" story for you to experience. After turning on the Lazarus Machine, Ollie makes himself known, mimicking the original ending to BATIM's Chapter 1. If you avoid him for long enough, he'll lash out at you, forcing you to follow the path. Ollie is obsessed with making you bend to his will, so it's best to follow his path, because you always will. This is what you remember, right?

In the Brighter Side Films building, he is king. 

 

redfreddy

"..."

Its natural for media to be lost and archived somewhere else, and the Zajcu37 Archiv is no different... At a glance, it may first seem like horrifically low quality rips of videos from the animation Zajcu37, but that's nothing out of the ordinary, right?

You'd think that, but when you go beyond the surface of the channel, it's not too long before things start feeling off. The videos aren't quite how you remember them; they feel wrong, much more graphic. A specific animatronic stands out, one you don't recall being there: 

 

redfreddy

You notice events take place differently in his presence, being gorier and much more rattling, him, and others affected by him in constant agony, it's hardly something you could ignore with their constant screeching, as if its calling out to someone. Perhaps the someone is Ryan The Angel Gamer, who's able to match redfreddy and perhaps maybe rope into the light. Any time they talk, Ryan tries his best to bring redfreddy out of his own personal hell.

Regardless, redfreddy is contempt in his little archive, making them suffer and scream with him. Maybe someday, some higher power will finally answer to his cries. 

 

Powers

 

Ollie

Ink "Demon" Physiology

There's a few things to note here so we're going to lump it all into this. 

First, Ollie is a manifestation of all the negativity from the BATIM community. He subsumed the role of Bendy after taking over an old version of the game to write his version of the game, meaning he likely has the same kind of body as the actual Bendy.

Being made of ink and paper, Ollie is capable of diving into puddles of ink to traverse and create / manipulate ink with his mere presence. Ink and paper also don't follow any logic too.

 

4th Wall Awareness

Upon crashing the game, Ollie directly communicates with the player, often to bully and or pester them to coming back into the game. He can also do this with the objective pop-ups during the game and also read out your pc's name, record your mic and also know if you have OBS opened.

 

Reality Warping

 Due to the nature of Ollie creating his own story, he has total dominance of the entire game. He's capable of causing ink and paper to not follow logic as well as being able to shape the entire Bright Side Films building to his will.

 

Dimensional Travel

Ollie is capable of traveling to different version of Bendy And The Ink Machine before settling on an old version to build his own. He traveled to the 2017 version to specifically fuck with people.

 

Ink Manipulation

Being the Ink Demon and all that, Ollie is capable of manipulating ink to the point of covering the entire Brighter Side Films building in it.

 

Plot Manipulation (see BTV)

Ollie is stated to have written his own story for OOTIM. As the player, you're experiencing his story as he's laid it out for you. 

 

Toon Force 

Implied to have some degree of toon force

 

 

 

redfreddy

 

"Demon" Physiology

redfreddy is... a rather interesting thing. For starters, redfreddy doesn't conventionally exist in the videos, instead coming into the world via possessing animatronics or hijacking the video itself to stare at the viewer. Redfreddy's body is also completely organic, excluding the freddy costume he inhabits.

  

Possession

At whim, redfreddy is capable of complete possession of any animatronic of it's choice. Once possessed, redfreddy completely takes over their body, often manifesting as his true form or severely altering the posessed's body. Once the possession ends, the possessed returns to normal with absolutely 0 knowledge of the possession.

 

Biology Manipulation

Upon any kind of damage received or possession, redfreddy is capable of turning the animatronics into organic beings, before reverting them back to normal like nothing happened. This can also stem into completely rearranging the face of animatronics.

  

Reality Warping

redfreddy due to having total dominance of the medium we watch him through, is able to alter, inject or otherwise completely mess with the video, such as: 

• Being implied to have looped this question in a QnA repeatedly 
• Inject images of RyanTheAngelGamer into the video
• Derail the video to show this, this, and this
• Completely change the video to just him staring at the veiwer
• Turn Chica's face into a baby 

Animatronics who happen to be looking at redfreddy also don't remember anything after it vanishes.

 

4th Wall Awareness

redfreddy is completely aware of being watched. He sometimes uses this to communicated directly to the viewer or to creep them out.

 

Information Manipulation

 

On the official website for the archive, images shown inside had file names revealing a conversation between presumably redfreddy and Ryan.

Due to the original website being taken down, consult this video about the site. 

 

Mind Manipulation

redfreddy is capable of influencing animatronics into different acts, such as:

• Causing Toy Bonnie to hang himself 
• this
• Making Mangle antagonize Foxy into killing her (slur warning)

 

 

Enviromental Destruction

redfreddy is capable of:

• Corrupting the entire SFM program (shown above)
• Can crash his game, which contains a Star 

 

Mental Illusions

Causes images to appear while chasing Bonnie 

 

 

Equipment

 

Ollie

Axe

It's an axe! What else is there to say?

 

Various Cutouts

Strewn around the Brighter Side Films building, Ollie is capable of possessing these and acting like a weeping angel to chase the player throughout the entire building.

 

redfreddy

Keys

Collect my keys. Used to unlock escape the building in game.

 

Forms

 

Ollie

Anemoia

artwork source

As Ollie's ink drys up and falls off his body, his true form comes out to shine. Being made up of paper, it is Ollie's truest form he can inhabit.

 

redfreddy

Various Animatronics

Throughout redfreddy's multiple appearances, he's taken on the form of several characters, such as:

• Freddy
• Toy Chica
• Bonnie
• The Night Guard
• Ryan The Angel Gamer
• Chica

It is heavily implied that redfreddy is capable of possessing everyone in the series.

 

 

 

Resistances

 

Weaknesses

Ollie

 For all the talk Ollie is and hypes up to be, he's also a complete moron. Ollie THRIVES off being the center of attention, and if the player ignores him for too long, he'll crash the game out of rage. He's extremely overconfident that you'll play his game and experience his story to the point of genuine obsession and will freak out when you don't play along. He's too obsessed with himself to see otherwise.

 

redfreddy 

While redfreddy is an unstoppable force, we've never seen him actually fight anyone on his level in a proper degree. While we've seen him banter with Ryan The Angel Gamer, he's never actually properly fought him and has resorted to just possessing him.

 

Feats 

Ollie

Overall

• Created everything in his game
• Knows you're playing his game and if you're recording it too
• Traveled through multiple BATIM versions 
• Can crash your game
• Is evil 
• In this house he is king 

 

Power 

art source

 

• Broke this wooden board
• Scales to the MC, who survived this fall
• Created the entire Brighter Side Films building
• Can control ink, which covers the entire building 
• Can crash your game 

 

Durability

• Completely fine after crashing the game
• Should scale to the player who survived that fall 

Speed

• Scales to the player who kind of runs fast 

 

redfreddy

 

Overall

• Is the reason multiple animatronics died throughout the archive
• Corrupted the entire SFM program in a few seconds
• Possessed Ryan The Angel Gamer
• Caused Toy Bonnie to hang himself
• Caused Bonnie and Foxy to get frisky.. twice
• Crashed his own game 
• is red and scary 

Power

• Crashes his game, which has a sun
• Corrupted all of SFM in a few seconds
• Killed these 2 in a bathroom
• Overpowers Bonnie 

Durability

•  Can survive crashing the game

 

Speed

• Can outrun / keep up with Bonnie

Zajcu37 Cast 

 

        Strength

• Foxy breaks the night guard's bones
• Toy Chica lifts up a metal door
• Golden Freddy breaks the new night guard's arm
• The puppet throws everyone with 0 effort 

       Speed

• Foxy dodges the guard's shotgun at point blank range
• Foxy and Mangle vanish right after causing the power to go out

        Durability 

  

 

 

 

Before The Verdict

 

 

Ollie's "Plot Manipulation"

 

Something brought up for arguments for Ollie's win revolving on his supposed ability to manipulate the plot, despite us never actually seeing that be used. Since Ollie did create everything in OOTIM, we need to determine if it is in fact something he should have.

 

Arguments For

 Ollie has total dominance over OOTIM, so it'd make sense for him to also be able to change the plot itself. Afterall, everything in game is made by and controlled by Ollie. The player, for all intents and purposes, does follow the path Ollie lays out for them.

 

Arguments Against

  There's no proper shown instance of Ollie actually manipulating the plot, and it's likely he can only alter his surroundings and nudge the player in the direction he wants, but otherwise needs the player to actually follow through with what he's going for to change how things go. Ollie, if you take too long or even ignore him, will also crash the game too. It imply's Ollie's plot manipulation is more just generally fleshing out what happens in order, rather than making certain points in the plot happen. Its like a play in a sense, making everyone play their part to progress it forward.

 

Our Verdict

In short, Ollie's supposed plot manipulation is simply moreso how a play works. Everyone has to play a part in it, and the fact the player is able to ragebait Ollie into crashing his own game also amplyfies this idea further. The player is able to do whatever they want and only "follows the path" because Ollie constantly nudges them to do so, implying he's not capable of forcing us to actually do it. Its difficult to grant Ollie such an ability when the entire time he's constantly trying to make himself the center of attention and freaks out enough to close your game when you don't play by his rules.

TLDR; we don't buy it

 

Ryan's Viability

Ryan is... complicated, to say the least. Being only in 2 videos of the series, he's able to match redfreddy's plot derailment and even beat it. However, Ryan himself is still vulnurable to redfreddy's possession and should be able to inherit his scaling too, meaning it's possible for redfreddy to hijack what is basically a higher-tier version of himself, even if Ryan starts off in the fight as a hinderance.

Verdict

This fight is an absolute headache to think about. Both are able to do generally the same things, yet do have viable win conditions. We're going to try and explain it all, starting with...

 

 

Let's be honest, this one is a wash. Ollie is able to barely snap a big plank of wood while redfreddy is able to scale to Toy Chica, who's able to throw up a metal door in a single frame. redfreddy's just got actual content we can use if we're to get meta for a second.

 

Wait... aren't we forgetting something?

 Oh... right.

Anemoia is... likely an issue for redfreddy. Given the fact it's Ollie's true form, it should obviously have some sort of boost in stats from his rather normal inky form. Anemoia is an absolute behemoth too, being at least larger than the average player. It should be able to even out the stats gap if you're willing to buy this argument. Regardless, redfreddy simply has better stats when we compare them at a base level, Anemoia or not. Even if you want to compare their game crashing feats as something applicable for AP, the building in redfreddy's game is just way larger.

For the sake of simplicity, redfreddy should generally take stats.

On the surface, redfreddy does have more things to pull from. Flashing random shit at Ollie to even posessing him, this should be a wash for redfreddy. However, despite the gap in number of abilities, Ollie should be able to work around a lot of them with his more limited, but stronger arsenal. Ollie being able to travel through different version of Bendy And The Ink Machine means he'd be able to avoid death, but this is assuming the issue with stats don't immedeatley give him 0 chance to pull that off. Despite this, Ollie's ability to control ink in the entire Brigther Side Films building does allow him not only easier travel, but have much, much greater battlefield control too, meaning redfreddy closing in for the kill is an extremely large issue.

However, this is when it starts to fall to the wayside. redfreddy for starters, typically immedately turns animatronics upon any kind of harm into organic beings, followed by him also reversing it. If Ollie were to take any damage, it'd be able to bypass Ollie's inky physiology and likely leave lasting damage on him. redfreddy doesn't have to revert the animatronics because hes forced to, its something he's actively doing to them at will. Ollie simply doesn't have a very proper way to prevent this and could get 1 2 combo'ed into something before he's properly able to react to it. This is also ignoring the fact redfreddy could just make Ollie kill himself or corrupt his game too, killing him in the process.

 

To nobody's suprise, redfreddy takes this.

Abilties wouldn't matter if Ollie is able to simply undo it. To his credit, he should be able to. redfreddy is able to counter Ollie's ink physiology, but Ollie should be able to bounce back from it too by crashing the game and restarting the fight from zero. While redfreddy does have way more abilities to draw from, Ollie is able to evade with ease by simply diving into ink to plan a new form of attack, effectively stalling out the fight for as long as he wants... Until redfreddy gets fed up enough to just posess him, putting a stop to that. No matter what happens to the other, they can simply just undo it and completly restart from square one.

 

Even if redfreddy was able to effect the plot from posessing Ryan The Angel Gamer, he never does anything very meaningful with it and the times redfreddy has directly effected the plot we're the two times he forced the video to derail and show Bonnie and Foxy feeling up each other. Even if redfreddy posesses Ryan, despite having a stronger effect, he never does anything meaningful with it. If Ollie we're to be turned into organic matter, crashing the game would likely reverse the effect completely, effectivley shutting it down completely.

 

In the end, while redfreddy is capable of bypassing Ollie's ink physiology, Ollie is also just as able to complely avoid redfreddy due to it. Even if something lethal does occurr, the fact both are capible of crashing the game means the entire fight would be starting back from zero. No matter how you look at it, both have several methods of hindering each other while also being able to avoid the other's options.

 

This catagorey is a tie.

 

Outcome

 

Ollie

"If you changed the past, would you even be able to tell?"

 

Advantages 

+ Anemoia should close the stats gap
+ Ink physiology allows for better mobility and a pseudo healing factor

+ Cutouts allow for an easy escape

+ Battlefield control via ink manipulation

 

Disdvantages

- Cannot resist Posession or Biology Manipulation 

- Would toy around for the majority of the fight, leaving him open

-  redfreddy being able to possess multiple at once leads to a numbers disadvantage

- Could be driven to just kill himself

- Might not be able to interfere with Ryan if included 

 

redfreddy

"playalong"

 

Advantages

+ Generally better stats

+ Possession and Biology Manipulation cannot be countered

 + Being able to possess more than one person also gives a numbers advantage

+ Due to Ryan, he also has slight experience with someone like Ollie

+ Could LTG Ollie
+ Possessed Ryan would give a boost in power with no drawback

+ could baby face Ollie which would be really fucking funny 

  

Disdvantages 

- Ink Manipulation could overwhelm redfreddy

- Less versatile use with most abilties

- If Ryan is included, he would only hinder redfreddy until being posessed 

 

 

Equal 

= Crashing the game forces a hard reset of the fight

= A lot of abilities overlap each other 

 

 

Despite what the verdict may say, this fight is not an easy one for both. With Ollie having a method to close the stats gap and constantly reset the fight, it came down to the fact redfreddy has more abilities to draw from. In the end, Ollie's death is another archived tragety for us to watch.

 The winner is redfreddy (0-2)

 

In Closing

 Im not very built for this blog stuff haha. I picked up this fight because the debate in the fan battle server post for this fight sold me on it being super close, which ended up being fairly correct. I'm not very good at arguing though... its a major issue i rewally cant improve on because i;m also just bad at talking in general but i do hope the argument we put up for redfreddy makes sense... i worry it doesnt or we missed something super vital that actually gives ollie the win

 

will this be the g1 of larp battles? no. unless the mu is something i really do like. larp battle actually introduced me to this as an actual idea and i was instantly hooked on it. i hope they do more fights like this in the future or maybe even flowers vs serverblight OoooOooooOOOOO how can i make this about FlowersBlight??? said everyone in the db discord

kidding. Maybe theyll do it idk i dont work for them (yet, at least)

 

Anyway to end this off if you'd like to help us do more blogs just ping me in the death battle server. i dont accept friend requests unless i know you so dont bother OK BYE NOW IF WE EVER DO A NON LARP PREDICTION EXPECT MURDER MINERS VS CASTLE MINERS AS THE NEXT SOLO BLOG MAYBE